been a part of this since the beginning of last year and it really has been a lot of fun with a great group of guys. especially with the summer we had. the group has really made us feel like we belong to something really cool. it gives us the opportunity to fish competitively without a big boat, club, etc. and we have really enjoyed it. and johnny and smoke do a great job managing everything. any time you guys need help with anything, feel free to give me a shout.
here are my thoughts....
1) i agree with the time thing. the bigger it has become, it seems the longer we wait around to start. i agree with everyone who has commented. if the start time is 7:00, we start at 7:00 or whenever the "official" time is for a particular location. late arrivals start when they get there.
2) I also think the end time should be predetermined and consistent as well. we started the worcester tourney a half hour late, but then ended a half hour early because guys wanted to get home to see the pats play. i like the pats as much as the next guy, but we shouldn't suddenly change the time because a few guys want to get home to see the game. just my opinion. (sorry napa, lol). we could always throw in a saturday when football season starts. having set consistent times also allows guys to make plans for later in the day.
3) something that hasn't been brought up. how do we manage the growth in participants. the middleboro tourney last summer had 6 boats. yesterday we had 20. and there are still guys that want to participate, but haven't been able to. the group will continue getting bigger as word gets out, more people join the site, etc. if not for boat issues, we would have made all of them this year, but what about next year? will i have to wait online intensely waiting for the tourney to get posted so i can get a spot similar to buying tickets to a concert. i'm not sure if there is a way to prevent this, but it would be a bummer to get shut out for a bunch of them next year because there are so many people trying to get spots. i'm not advocating some teams get preference over others, (though i have been paying rent for 2 years now, lol). maybe its just a matter of moving to bigger lakes that can accommodate more boats. i don't know the answer. just throwing it out there for thought and possible discussion.
4) it would be cool to do a couple more cookouts if possible. just to be able to hang out for a while after. i would have hung out yesterday, but i was really tired and still numb from the cold. if we plan ahead and everyone throws in a few bucks to cover the food, we could do it 2 or 3 times over the summer. even if its just some dogs on a hibachi in the parking lot. just a thought.
5) would love to do a night tourney as we always seem to do better at night. but there is the safety concern. not all of the boats have lights and with the bigger boats cruising around it could get risky. though, i'm sure we could come up with something. maybe just a car topper for the night time? and based on this year's trips, maspy sounds like a great night time place. saturdays would be better for night to not interfere with work schedules.
those are my thoughts. not the best year for us bringing in the fish, but still a good time, every time. i'm sure i will be out every weekend (probably afternoons to early evening) until it gets too cold. for me that's the end of october or early november. until then, if anybody wants to get together on a saturday or sunday and hit up a spot, just let me know.
here are my thoughts....
1) i agree with the time thing. the bigger it has become, it seems the longer we wait around to start. i agree with everyone who has commented. if the start time is 7:00, we start at 7:00 or whenever the "official" time is for a particular location. late arrivals start when they get there.
2) I also think the end time should be predetermined and consistent as well. we started the worcester tourney a half hour late, but then ended a half hour early because guys wanted to get home to see the pats play. i like the pats as much as the next guy, but we shouldn't suddenly change the time because a few guys want to get home to see the game. just my opinion. (sorry napa, lol). we could always throw in a saturday when football season starts. having set consistent times also allows guys to make plans for later in the day.
3) something that hasn't been brought up. how do we manage the growth in participants. the middleboro tourney last summer had 6 boats. yesterday we had 20. and there are still guys that want to participate, but haven't been able to. the group will continue getting bigger as word gets out, more people join the site, etc. if not for boat issues, we would have made all of them this year, but what about next year? will i have to wait online intensely waiting for the tourney to get posted so i can get a spot similar to buying tickets to a concert. i'm not sure if there is a way to prevent this, but it would be a bummer to get shut out for a bunch of them next year because there are so many people trying to get spots. i'm not advocating some teams get preference over others, (though i have been paying rent for 2 years now, lol). maybe its just a matter of moving to bigger lakes that can accommodate more boats. i don't know the answer. just throwing it out there for thought and possible discussion.
4) it would be cool to do a couple more cookouts if possible. just to be able to hang out for a while after. i would have hung out yesterday, but i was really tired and still numb from the cold. if we plan ahead and everyone throws in a few bucks to cover the food, we could do it 2 or 3 times over the summer. even if its just some dogs on a hibachi in the parking lot. just a thought.
5) would love to do a night tourney as we always seem to do better at night. but there is the safety concern. not all of the boats have lights and with the bigger boats cruising around it could get risky. though, i'm sure we could come up with something. maybe just a car topper for the night time? and based on this year's trips, maspy sounds like a great night time place. saturdays would be better for night to not interfere with work schedules.
those are my thoughts. not the best year for us bringing in the fish, but still a good time, every time. i'm sure i will be out every weekend (probably afternoons to early evening) until it gets too cold. for me that's the end of october or early november. until then, if anybody wants to get together on a saturday or sunday and hit up a spot, just let me know.
LOTS OF GOOD INPUT HERE BOYS!!! OK IF YOUR LATE? ONCE YOU GET ON THE WATER YOU MUST SEE ME OR JOHNNY TO CHECK IN FOR YOUR RENT AND LIVEWELL CHECKS LOST FISHING TIME IS THE PENALTY. WE WILL NEED TO FIND SOMEONE TO DO LIVEWELL CHECKS EVERY TOURNY.TOUGH FOR ME WHEN I'M COLLECTING THE MONEY. NO PENALTY IF YOUR LATE THAT IS THE PENALTY. I LIKE THE 6:30 START TIME ALSO AND END AT 2PM.
ALSO I KNOW THIS WILL GROW BIGGER SO WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH CARTOPPERS I WILL HAVE A CARTOPPER DIVISION.
BUT ALSO IN THE OPEN BIG TOURNEY CARTOPPERS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME.I THINK IT WILL MAKE THINGS MORE COMPETITIVE AND FAIR.
1ST 2ND 3RD AND LUNKER IS FINE WITH ME!!!!HONESTLY I LIKE LUNKER TO BE $100 BUT EITHER WAY IS FINE
10 TOURNEYS WITH NEW LAKES ON MOST OF THEM
IF YOU GUYS LIKED THE FINAL TEAM THING THEN WE WILL PLAN THE LAST ONE AT A BIG LAKE MAYBE WEBSTER
4 CARTOPPERS WILL BE PLACED IN THE MIX QUARTERLY
I WILL KEEP THE STATS UP IF YOU GUYS LIKE THEM. I KNOW I LIKE TO SEE WHERE I AM COMPARED TO THE FIELD.
MUST ATTEND AT LEAST HALF THE TOURNEYS TO QUALIFY FOR THE FINAL.
WE ARE CHANGING PAYOUTS SO WE WILL ADD A COUPLE PRIZES FOR LUNKER OF THE YEAR AND STRINGER OF THE YEAR AWARDED AT THE FINAL.
AND ONE MORE THING IF YOU POST YOUR COMING---- SHOW UP!!!!!
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OTHERS IF YOU TAKE A SPOT AND DON'T COME
RALPH MAYBE WE CAN DO A CARTOPPER COOKOUT AND OUR REGULAR TOURNEY COOKOUT. I'M SURE WE CAN ORGANIZE SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!
NOONE WANTS TO GET SHUT OUT SO WE WILL WORK ON THAT AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING??
LATE SPRING NIGHT TOURNEY OR SUMMER MAYBE 12 TO 7:30 SO WE CAN SEE AT THE WEIGH IN.
ALSO I KNOW THIS WILL GROW BIGGER SO WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH CARTOPPERS I WILL HAVE A CARTOPPER DIVISION.
BUT ALSO IN THE OPEN BIG TOURNEY CARTOPPERS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME.I THINK IT WILL MAKE THINGS MORE COMPETITIVE AND FAIR.
1ST 2ND 3RD AND LUNKER IS FINE WITH ME!!!!HONESTLY I LIKE LUNKER TO BE $100 BUT EITHER WAY IS FINE
10 TOURNEYS WITH NEW LAKES ON MOST OF THEM
IF YOU GUYS LIKED THE FINAL TEAM THING THEN WE WILL PLAN THE LAST ONE AT A BIG LAKE MAYBE WEBSTER
4 CARTOPPERS WILL BE PLACED IN THE MIX QUARTERLY
I WILL KEEP THE STATS UP IF YOU GUYS LIKE THEM. I KNOW I LIKE TO SEE WHERE I AM COMPARED TO THE FIELD.
MUST ATTEND AT LEAST HALF THE TOURNEYS TO QUALIFY FOR THE FINAL.
WE ARE CHANGING PAYOUTS SO WE WILL ADD A COUPLE PRIZES FOR LUNKER OF THE YEAR AND STRINGER OF THE YEAR AWARDED AT THE FINAL.
AND ONE MORE THING IF YOU POST YOUR COMING---- SHOW UP!!!!!
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OTHERS IF YOU TAKE A SPOT AND DON'T COME
RALPH MAYBE WE CAN DO A CARTOPPER COOKOUT AND OUR REGULAR TOURNEY COOKOUT. I'M SURE WE CAN ORGANIZE SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!
NOONE WANTS TO GET SHUT OUT SO WE WILL WORK ON THAT AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING??
LATE SPRING NIGHT TOURNEY OR SUMMER MAYBE 12 TO 7:30 SO WE CAN SEE AT THE WEIGH IN.
I agree about having to fish X number of tourenys to qaulify for the final team tourney. Don't get me wrong, I was glad to be there.
But, I would feel terrible, if my pathetic bag on sunday had cost the team the tourney.
Then again, it also could have been the differance maker?
But, I would feel terrible, if my pathetic bag on sunday had cost the team the tourney.
Then again, it also could have been the differance maker?
Excellent points Natick Guy, Smoke and everyone.
As far as these continuing to grow. I certainly believe there should be some teams that are automatically put on the tourney list to start, and if they cannot make it, someone else can jump in. Those teams that showed up to nearly every tourney. Paid there rent. Obviously Smoke and Johnny's teams are auto, but looking at the list
Landlords 10 tourneys
Smoke City 10
Hawg Hunters 9
Arrogant Anglers 9
Nocatchum 9
morefish 9
Angry meat 8
Rock-A-Bass has been doing this since day 1 as well, certainly missed a couple tourneys, but poor guys boat tipped before one, and he had work a few times...cant hold that against them
Happy Hookers made every tourney once they discovered the site as well...
(if i missed a team that was always there, my bad)
I certainly believe these teams should have 1st dibs. No offense to anyone else who joined late or anything, but the "Original 8" or so shouldnt have to worry about logging on each second to make sure they sign up to the tourney before it fills up. All these teams have shown they will make basically every single tourney.
Also i couldnt agree with Smoke any more...if you sign up...make sure you come. It is not fair to teams that are itching to come, but the tourney is full, and some teams just dont show......If you have a potential conflict, atleast make Smoke and Johnny aware a week ahead of time, so they can inform a team they may be able to come if you drop out. Not only do some teams not show up. A few times each tourney we have teams sign up right away..then cancel Saturday night. I understand stuff comes up, emergencies ext...but teams should just sign up to sign up..and then wait and see if their wives will let them fish the night before a tourney.
If you sign up, you should feel obligated to show up. Canceling the night before to watch the Pats (Slobs r Us)..or for a concert/show really shouldn't happen. ...Sure if your boat tips over on saturday, its understandable that you cannot make it...or if you get called into work....or kids are sick...other than that...really shouldn't be dropping out Saturday night.
not trying to call anyone out..rather just point out that if you committ to a tourney, you should show up unless of an emergency...
Keeps the stats smoke, i enjoy looking at them for sure
As far as these continuing to grow. I certainly believe there should be some teams that are automatically put on the tourney list to start, and if they cannot make it, someone else can jump in. Those teams that showed up to nearly every tourney. Paid there rent. Obviously Smoke and Johnny's teams are auto, but looking at the list
Landlords 10 tourneys
Smoke City 10
Hawg Hunters 9
Arrogant Anglers 9
Nocatchum 9
morefish 9
Angry meat 8
Rock-A-Bass has been doing this since day 1 as well, certainly missed a couple tourneys, but poor guys boat tipped before one, and he had work a few times...cant hold that against them
Happy Hookers made every tourney once they discovered the site as well...
(if i missed a team that was always there, my bad)
I certainly believe these teams should have 1st dibs. No offense to anyone else who joined late or anything, but the "Original 8" or so shouldnt have to worry about logging on each second to make sure they sign up to the tourney before it fills up. All these teams have shown they will make basically every single tourney.
Also i couldnt agree with Smoke any more...if you sign up...make sure you come. It is not fair to teams that are itching to come, but the tourney is full, and some teams just dont show......If you have a potential conflict, atleast make Smoke and Johnny aware a week ahead of time, so they can inform a team they may be able to come if you drop out. Not only do some teams not show up. A few times each tourney we have teams sign up right away..then cancel Saturday night. I understand stuff comes up, emergencies ext...but teams should just sign up to sign up..and then wait and see if their wives will let them fish the night before a tourney.
If you sign up, you should feel obligated to show up. Canceling the night before to watch the Pats (Slobs r Us)..or for a concert/show really shouldn't happen. ...Sure if your boat tips over on saturday, its understandable that you cannot make it...or if you get called into work....or kids are sick...other than that...really shouldn't be dropping out Saturday night.
not trying to call anyone out..rather just point out that if you committ to a tourney, you should show up unless of an emergency...
Keeps the stats smoke, i enjoy looking at them for sure
I think the challenge with enforcing a strict size limit and granting an automatic spot to some people is that you are creating a self-reinforcing group that over time will become fairly static and exclude other people. I know personally I'm not gonna sit around until a couple days before a tournament and block off my calendar just in case someone drops. I've got too must s*** going on in my life to keep a weekend open just in case. I'll know weeks ahead of time whether I'm available, and once I'm committed to a date it takes something extraordinary to change that. I'm sure plenty of people would feel the same way. So you have the regulars that may or may not show up, and you have the occasional attendee outside of that group.
Maybe that's what people are looking for, I don't know. But to me, a fixed group of people that are guaranteed attendance and a group of people that are at the mercy of whether others attend, that sounds friggin' awful. Might as well create a club and hand out memberships at that point, at least the people outside the circle will know where they stand. I personally like the current atmosphere.
And before someone comes up with the "you just don't want to earn a spot" line, let me reassure you that I have no problem with putting the time in. I would venture to say that I could likely guarantee myself a spot during next season, if that system was to go into place. I have not missed a club tournament in two years. The only point of conflict would be that the MAFF tournaments seem to fall close to or on top of the club ones this year with incredible consistency =)
Now, that being said, having to madly refresh a forum post and trying to get a spot by posting in the previous tournament post "hey, can't make it but sign me up for the next one!" isn't ideal either. Same with the short notice bailouts, those just hose the people that weren't fast enough on the forum and can't sit around and hope for an opening.
One approach would be for the top 5(?) placers from the previous tournament to automatically get a spot if they can commit to it ahead of time. Everyone else goes on a lottery pick, with the spots drawn ahead of time as well.
Every spot could be a lottery pick, with previous attendance affecting your chance to get the spot. Again, spots drawn a week in advance or whatever.
It could remain first come first serve, with a required pre-payment. Once the money is in Smoke's hands, you have a spot. Allow people to start registering after the weigh-in of the previous tournament if you want to benefit those that are in attendance. Your money stays in the pool if you cancel, however.
You could simply let everyone show up. One thing to keep in mind with that is that tournaments that go above 25 boats (I think that's the number at least) needs an EPO officer present, which is a significant expense, somewhere around 350 bucks. It also affects the places we can fish, of course.
I think one of the big things to address is the cancellations. There's no harm in currently blocking a spot right away, and then seeing if you can actually make it. Make cancellations inside a week or whatever be subject to review. Some emergencies you can't foresee, s*** happens. Work, illness, kid drunk in lockup, that sort of thing =) But otherwise changing your plans is a choice, and should have a consequence. You most likely just reduced the field, and someone else didn't get to go. Maybe your priority drops for the next signup, maybe you have to back pay for the tournament you canceled in order to get in again, whatever people think is appropriate. Maybe a stern look from other anglers is enough. But with spots at a premium, cancellations are troublesome and need to not happen.
Anyways, end of wall of text. Just some thoughts. In the end, I am more than willing to live with the current format.
Maybe that's what people are looking for, I don't know. But to me, a fixed group of people that are guaranteed attendance and a group of people that are at the mercy of whether others attend, that sounds friggin' awful. Might as well create a club and hand out memberships at that point, at least the people outside the circle will know where they stand. I personally like the current atmosphere.
And before someone comes up with the "you just don't want to earn a spot" line, let me reassure you that I have no problem with putting the time in. I would venture to say that I could likely guarantee myself a spot during next season, if that system was to go into place. I have not missed a club tournament in two years. The only point of conflict would be that the MAFF tournaments seem to fall close to or on top of the club ones this year with incredible consistency =)
Now, that being said, having to madly refresh a forum post and trying to get a spot by posting in the previous tournament post "hey, can't make it but sign me up for the next one!" isn't ideal either. Same with the short notice bailouts, those just hose the people that weren't fast enough on the forum and can't sit around and hope for an opening.
One approach would be for the top 5(?) placers from the previous tournament to automatically get a spot if they can commit to it ahead of time. Everyone else goes on a lottery pick, with the spots drawn ahead of time as well.
Every spot could be a lottery pick, with previous attendance affecting your chance to get the spot. Again, spots drawn a week in advance or whatever.
It could remain first come first serve, with a required pre-payment. Once the money is in Smoke's hands, you have a spot. Allow people to start registering after the weigh-in of the previous tournament if you want to benefit those that are in attendance. Your money stays in the pool if you cancel, however.
You could simply let everyone show up. One thing to keep in mind with that is that tournaments that go above 25 boats (I think that's the number at least) needs an EPO officer present, which is a significant expense, somewhere around 350 bucks. It also affects the places we can fish, of course.
I think one of the big things to address is the cancellations. There's no harm in currently blocking a spot right away, and then seeing if you can actually make it. Make cancellations inside a week or whatever be subject to review. Some emergencies you can't foresee, s*** happens. Work, illness, kid drunk in lockup, that sort of thing =) But otherwise changing your plans is a choice, and should have a consequence. You most likely just reduced the field, and someone else didn't get to go. Maybe your priority drops for the next signup, maybe you have to back pay for the tournament you canceled in order to get in again, whatever people think is appropriate. Maybe a stern look from other anglers is enough. But with spots at a premium, cancellations are troublesome and need to not happen.
Anyways, end of wall of text. Just some thoughts. In the end, I am more than willing to live with the current format.
If we do a top 5, or a lottery, it seems too complicated and "club" like in my opinion.. Fact is many of us have these tournaments, and nothing else. While others are in a few clubs, which take precedent over our tourney's, which is fine.
Either way is fine with me....i got the commish on speed dial..so im not worried about getting spot
I just wish we could keep the same group of teams, haha, everyone has fun and gets along...making this a 25-30 team frenzy for tournaments would completely ruin what we have going.
Either way is fine with me....i got the commish on speed dial..so im not worried about getting spot
I just wish we could keep the same group of teams, haha, everyone has fun and gets along...making this a 25-30 team frenzy for tournaments would completely ruin what we have going.
a lot of good opinions and natickguy really brought up a good point about managing the growth and popularity of these tournaments. it really seems like a lot of people will have different opinions about guaranteed spots and if i were on a team that was in all of the tournaments this year then maybe i'd feel like i should be guaranteed all the time. this doesn't seem very fair because then no one would get a chance. if michael's in for every single one next year, i definitely want to be in. i've wanted to fish these for a long time. if we or anyone else fished every single one, then would we then be part of the guaranteed group? if he didn't end up getting a boat, we never would have had the opportunity to start fishing these this year. if he got it say, next year and all spots were locked up, we would never have the chance. if we have guarantees, lotteries, and all that type of thing it seems like everything is becoming more complex, more like a club, and people might feel left out and start getting pissed. this would be what everyone doesn't seem to want.
what napa said about keeping this going, now that we're in, yeah i'd love to keep it going for next year too but again, that's definitely not fair and a lot of people here would never have gotten to fish if it were that way in the past.
that being said, it looked like at the end of the year a good 3-4 more new teams were interested in fishing. looking back at cancellations and even at boon with 18, we probably could've had everyone who wanted to fish be able to participate in the end. what i'm saying is why don't we maybe expand the teams by a few next year but keep it as is until the growth gets to be too much? it seems like everything is manageable for now and with the car-topper division, i think most people will be able to fish as the big boats won't be in there. plus if things stayed pretty much the same, there wouldn't be a need for all sorts of rules or regulations and people not liking what was decided in the end. what do you think?
what napa said about keeping this going, now that we're in, yeah i'd love to keep it going for next year too but again, that's definitely not fair and a lot of people here would never have gotten to fish if it were that way in the past.
that being said, it looked like at the end of the year a good 3-4 more new teams were interested in fishing. looking back at cancellations and even at boon with 18, we probably could've had everyone who wanted to fish be able to participate in the end. what i'm saying is why don't we maybe expand the teams by a few next year but keep it as is until the growth gets to be too much? it seems like everything is manageable for now and with the car-topper division, i think most people will be able to fish as the big boats won't be in there. plus if things stayed pretty much the same, there wouldn't be a need for all sorts of rules or regulations and people not liking what was decided in the end. what do you think?
If we do a top 5, or a lottery, it seems too complicated and "club" like in my opinion.. Fact is many of us have these tournaments, and nothing else. While others are in a few clubs, which take precedent over our tourney's, which is fine.
Either way is fine with me....i got the commish on speed dial..so im not worried about getting spot
I just wish we could keep the same group of teams, haha, everyone has fun and gets along...making this a 25-30 team frenzy for tournaments would completely ruin what we have going.
Maybe I'm crazy optimistic, but I think the numbers will more or less stabilize. The attendance from this year shows that there's a set of people that make nearly every tournament, and then there's a set of teams that make some of the tournaments here and there. Find a way to manage cancellations better and I think it doesn't need much else.
I think the charm in these tournaments is the low pressure atmosphere. I want to fish these for the company and love the fact that there are all sorts of people coming together to do what they love doing. It's like an extended family outing. My favorite thing so far: Seeing a leather chair in a boat at Boone. Absolutely made my day. I'm considering one for my own boat. I also may need to sponsor the Arrogance next year if the T-shirts become available =)
I certainly agree Sam, if we can fit all the teams, it would be great. Im not sure the rules, or limitations that Smoke and Johnny are given when pulling permits for these tournaments. Obviously we would need to exam the launch before setting a higher number...Boone will be limited, where as Chocituate is a massive ramp that 20 boats could launch at once.
Well I am new to this site and hopfuly will be fishing some tourney's next year. All I got is a 10 ft bass hunter it sounds like you got some guys have real boat I was under the impression
this was mostly kayak and jon boats you know fun fishing.
I belong to the same bass club as samf and michalk I also fish with the ABA......non boater.
As an outsider hopeing to get in next year it sound like you are over complicating things keep it simple.
1) start time is what it is if you are late you start late with no penatly. If you want to leave early find the weight in boat and go.
2) keep the weigh in on the water on shore can be a dissater waiting to get all the boats out.
3) you should al least fish 5 out 10 tourneys to qualifiy for the finnal.
4) This all sounds like a good idea don't start changing rules to suit other people. Then you will be turning into a club with meetings commiites,presidents,tresures and so on.
5) If possiable pick waters that can handel 20 or 25 boats fish the same waters 2 times if you have to. We all want to fish different places but sometimes it just cant't happen.
I guess what I am saying is don't start acting like a club keep it on the lose and friendly side we all love to fish that is why we do it.
Don't get me wrong about clubs I belong to 2 good ones but sometimes I would like to just fish without the hassle.
Last but not least this is just my oppion and you what they are like
assholes everbody got one but some stink.
I hope I have added some input.
see you on the water.
Jack
this was mostly kayak and jon boats you know fun fishing.
I belong to the same bass club as samf and michalk I also fish with the ABA......non boater.
As an outsider hopeing to get in next year it sound like you are over complicating things keep it simple.
1) start time is what it is if you are late you start late with no penatly. If you want to leave early find the weight in boat and go.
2) keep the weigh in on the water on shore can be a dissater waiting to get all the boats out.
3) you should al least fish 5 out 10 tourneys to qualifiy for the finnal.
4) This all sounds like a good idea don't start changing rules to suit other people. Then you will be turning into a club with meetings commiites,presidents,tresures and so on.
5) If possiable pick waters that can handel 20 or 25 boats fish the same waters 2 times if you have to. We all want to fish different places but sometimes it just cant't happen.
I guess what I am saying is don't start acting like a club keep it on the lose and friendly side we all love to fish that is why we do it.
Don't get me wrong about clubs I belong to 2 good ones but sometimes I would like to just fish without the hassle.
Last but not least this is just my oppion and you what they are like
assholes everbody got one but some stink.
I hope I have added some input.
see you on the water.
Jack
i agree with sam. adding the car topper events could very well even it out some. i wasn't advocating guaranteed spots, just opening the topic up for discussion. and a lottery type thing would be time consuming.
the number of boats was not an issue until this past weekend at boone. i was shocked to see that many as most of the tourneys throughout the year were well under 15. there are a lot of teams that simply can't make it every time and therefore it could be manageable as it was this year.
maybe it's too early to think about and we should wait and see what happens next year.
the number of boats was not an issue until this past weekend at boone. i was shocked to see that many as most of the tourneys throughout the year were well under 15. there are a lot of teams that simply can't make it every time and therefore it could be manageable as it was this year.
maybe it's too early to think about and we should wait and see what happens next year.
This is just my opinion,take it for what its worth lol,there seems to be a little concern about getting spots in the tourneys.IMO the two guys who run these teams and the season champs team are the only teams that should get the automatic in.Maybe,maybe the top two teams.Everyone else should be first come first serve.Heres my reasoning,you guys are right,alot of you have been paying your dues for alot longer than alot of guys but only because you found it first lol,and it would really be unfair based on that alone,and going with stats would make it "clubby" imo,myself as an example,I'm a new guy,I found this place just recently and only fished the last 4(and an added scratch)available tourneys.I was fortunate to get on the roster and I also made each one early.I also plan on making all the dates next year depending how this goes.I understand stuff happens and it shouldnt be held against anyone but from what I noticed,it was "veteran" teams that had to bail most of the time.That only makes sense.The more you fish the more likely something will come up.On the home page the season dates were all laid out in advance, so why not have a set sign up time say something like 8pm the mon before a tourny date(just example)that way everyone doesnt have to babysit the computer.You'll know when they take names.Sorry smoke,I know you put alot of time in already and alot of guys myself included would help.I know this might piss some of the guys with good records and multiple seasons off but it seems like the fair way