Ed I'm sure in the near future Bam and I will be trying for some Channel cats. I'll keep you posted. Your more than welcome to come.

Posted Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:27 pm

Thats what I'm talkin about.

Posted Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:47 pm

Let me know when you going, if my schedule works i wouldn't mind tagging along, either of you have any experience with cats?

ED

Posted Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:31 pm

While I don't have any info on the locations of where to hunt channel cats; I can recommend a catfish bait that works well with them.

http://www.catfishbaitsoap.com/order-catfish-bait-online.html

The bait costs about $7.50 plus shipping but it seems to work a lot better then dip baits and chicken livers. Also it doesn't smell bad and it stores well. It also ends up being cheaper then fishing the live bait for cat fish.

Good luck hunting the cats.

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:37 pm

Interesting stuff thanks for the link...............I have to ask you though man,are you holding out ?I'm curious how you can recommend a bait without knowing where the cats are lol.

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:58 pm

I did a lot of on-line research on the topic after reading this thread. Honestly, I don't have any first hand knowledge of fishing for cats anywhere in or out of this state.

Also it seems like cat fishing is slow like fishing for carp is slow which is why a lot of the cat "fisherman" hunt cats using trot lines, limb lines, yo-yo reels and jugs. These are fishing methods which, I personally feel are not very sporting. They also happen to be illegal in our state.

Catfish tend to swallow the baits whole so catch and release is harder to practice with them.(Although circle hooks help.) Finally, catfish are the "dirtiest" fish you can catch as they are bottom feeding predators, they will have the highest levels of mercury, PCBs, etc. of almost any fish you pull out of the river.

Just because I don't hunt catfish doesn't mean I don't want to know how.

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:14 pm

Thats cool man just thought you were holding out on some good spots.I wasnt trying to learn how to catch cats,just trying to get some leads on other good high percentage spots on the river.You called them "bottom feeding predators" but bottom feeding believe it or not isnt a cats,especially big cats primary method of feeding.They wont pass up an easy meal but will catch a big bluegill or fat crawfish as easy as a chicken liver,in fact most big cat guys down south and the lakes region wont use anything but live and fresh cut,not rotting or ripe stink baits but bloody fresh bait.They know big cats are top shelf predators first and foremost.As far as the highest mercury levels,I have no idea,but why would scavenging dead fish and the like cause that,I didnt know dead fish were the cause of mercury in our waters.Catfish eat everyday,they couldnt do that on scavenging alone.

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:52 pm

Bam..the mercury is in the silt/water/muck etc from various pollution sources, not from rotting fish..the cats have higher levels of mercury not due to eating the dead but like carp for instance they are extremely hardy, and will live through pollution that would kill lesser fish. So where other fish would reach a certain level of contaminates and die, catfish would just keep on going like nothing was wrong. This tolerance allows them to live in places and eat things that many other fish would not and sadly it also build the levels of poisons in em Sad.

Channel cats are a blast and sadly I do not know any real hot spots here for them. I grew up in PA and hunted them all the time down there. Like you said they are big predators and one of my favorite spots was a deep hole that shallowed and narrowed to a stream that eventually opened up again. Shad used to collect at this shallow narrow section in big schools. The shad were 5-8 inches easy and fat. What I would do was toss a net and catch about a dozen of them when I arrived early in the morning. I'd take half of them and cut em up and toss em in the cooler, the other half I would keep alive in a large bucket. I'd take one rod, hook a live shad with a large 4/0 or so so hook, right behind the dorsal fin, then make a slit just before the tail on the belly. Not a big cut but enough to make the shad bleed and move frantically. I'd then free line that one and place a 2 oz weight with a chunk of shad on the bottom on a second rod.

I'll tell you watching a shad dance, then suddenly put a bend in the rod as a large cat would tear off was great fun...the payout could be huge, but like mentioned it could also be slow in between. Not like bass fishing. I might have only gotten 1-3 fish in a day..but those fish were typically 10-30 pounds...

Another great thing I used was chicken liver, fresh. If you have trouble casting it you can use cheese cloth to wrap around it before you hook it on. It is hard for a cat to pass up chicken liver though...looks great in the water and just oozes "come eat me"!

As mentioned circle hooks are great to use as cats want to pick up and move with their food while they eat. I've had a big cat pick up an 8 inch shad and slowly move away, and after a 30 second or so pause when I set the hook it simply came right out of it's mouth because he hadn't taken the hook in yet. It is hard not to nail that hook, but patience is key and giving them a few moments to move the hook into their mouths is crucial. Knowing this circle hooks present a great system for not gut hook the cat, especially for catch and release. The hardest part is learning to use pressure instead of a huge hook slam with circles.

Lemme know if you ever get around to doing any serious cat fishing. It is another of my passions that I haven't done in some time. I've mainly focused on carp here in MA, and while I know big cats exist in rivers like the M'mack and CT, I haven't really ever sat down and looked for em here. If I come across any ideas I'll let ya know.

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:48 pm

Thank you very much.The tolerance build up makes alot of sense.I may have mistook the statement as bottomfeeding=contamination.I've used chicken livers for years,and no doubt they are great bait.Even strips of beef beef liver are good.I just believe that a big mature cat becomes much more of a predator than a scavenger.Probably not a better bait for pout and smaller cats than chicken livers.I'm not convinced yet thats its the best way to target trophy size fish.I'm always ready to go catfishing.I love the sound of your setup,thats how you get big cats imo.May have to use the more readily available pumpkin seed or big golden shiners and even suckers here though.

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:10 pm

Display posts from previous:

MA Fish Finder

Social Links