Hi guys
I have been watching for a while the thundermist lure video podcasts and wanted to try their viper spoon. Did anyone ever try that? Are they good?
They come with either 2 or 3 single hooks, but I am not sure we can use 3 hooks here in Massachusetts. What is the regulation about that, 2 or 3 max?

Posted Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:25 am

I was looking at that reg yesterday and it says

FISHING PROHIBITIONS
More than two hooks for fishing open water or more than five hooks when ice fishing. A hook is defined as an angling device attached to a fishing line that is designed to take one fish at a time but is not limited to devices commonly called spinners, spoons, bait harnesses, jigs, or plugs.

It seems like you could read it both ways, that the three-hook lure is designed to take one fish, so it would be considered one hook. But then it has three actual hooks, so I don't know. It might be good to ask someone from MA Wildlife! People can put two lures in the water, and those may have more than one hook each, but I can't see how that would be a violation as it is written above, if each lure is designed to catch one fish.

Posted Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:25 pm

I think they are referring to how many lines you can have in the water at once. 5 traps ice fishing 2 rods open water. But that's just my interpretation.

Posted Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:52 pm

Hooks, not rods.

From what every Environmental Police Office I talked to told me, something like the Viper Spoon with 3 separate hooks would be illegal. You could chop one off and it would be fine.

Same reason you can't fish an Alabama Rig in MA (unless you use 3 trailers and 2 with hooks).

Treble hooks count as 1 hook. So of course, your standard crankbait is fine.

You could not legally, however, have one rod out with live bait while you fished with a crankbait, as you have 1 hook on the live bait rod, and 2 hooks on the crankbait. And of course, 3 hooks is 1 over the legal limit.

Would any EPO care if they found you had 3 hooks on a lure? Probably not. But if you want to be completely legal, snip off a hook.

Posted Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:18 pm

A hook is defined as an angling device attached to a fishing line that is designed to take one fish at a time but is not limited to devices commonly called spinners, spoons, bait harnesses, jigs, or plugs.

Big jerk baits often have three treble hooks, but under this reg they would be considered a device designed to take one fish at a time.

The Viper spoon falls into a grey area because it uses three inline single hooks, but to me anyway, it is designed to take one fish at a time. YMMV.

Posted Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:47 am

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