Throwing a senko is more "catching" than fishing. There's not really any skill involved. It removes the ability to improve as an angler.

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:15 pm

Throw as many Senko type baits as you want. Hooks are simple to remove.

Poke through completely if not already through, turn hook upside down, pull shaft and eye hole through with the string, snip string and retie. Easy peasy and fish swims off in great shape!

SIMPLE!!

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:17 pm

teamtrout

Barbless hooks or using a good long pair of hemostats both work. This technique works for me sometimes - http://everything-smallmouth.com/gut-hooked-fish-removal/



Great page, great videos, Thx

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:20 pm

pocketfisherman

Throw as many Senko type baits as you want. Hooks are simple to remove.

Poke through completely if not already through, turn hook upside down, pull shaft and eye hole through with the string, snip string and retie. Easy peasy and fish swims off in great shape!

SIMPLE!!



haha great stuff here Razz

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:25 pm

Whys everybody hatin' on senkos? They are a good way to catch some big bass! Many people I know, including myself, have caught there biggest fish on a senko. I think one could argue that there is just as much skill in senko fishing, as most other types of fishing. Take frog fishing- when they are hitting the frog, there isn't much skill involved; just cast out, see a bite, set the hook. Or crankbaiting. Same thing. Some days they don't hit the senko, so you have to change your technique. And if you can't "improve" by throwing different baits, I don't know what to tell ya...

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:30 pm

The great senko debate is back!!!


I love senkos

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:32 pm

biggz53

Throwing a senko is more "catching" than fishing. There's not really any skill involved. It removes the ability to improve as an angler.



I thought that the point of fishing was to catch fish? There is def a skill to how you present a Senko, too much action and not enough patience and you won't catch fish. Don't see how much more skill it takes to use a crankbait

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:06 pm

davelach

biggz53

Throwing a senko is more "catching" than fishing. There's not really any skill involved. It removes the ability to improve as an angler.



I thought that the point of fishing was to catch fish? There is def a skill to how you present a Senko, too much action and not enough patience and you won't catch fish. Don't see how much more skill it takes to use a crankbait



There is no skill to presenting a senko. You cast it out let it fall. And wait. And wait. Twitch. And wait. There is nothin to it which is why majority of anglers start out with that bait. I'm not sayin it doesn't work. I use it in tournaments, but never fun fishing because about the only skill you can improve using it is casting accuracy. If your fishing a crankbaits a lot more factors come in play. Cadence, bottom composition, depth, color,size. Of course the point of fishing it catching but when that senko bite isn't there people who only throw the senko are beyond lost. I was one of them for a long long time. I started MAFF tournies only throwing senkos and did well once and while and other days caught 0-1 fish because that's all I was throwing. I worked hard to learn a lot of other techniques and do a lot better for my self on any given day. The day is not lost when the senko bite is not on. Now like I said if I'm fun fishing I never have a senko tied on because it takes up too much time when trying to learn. I took a lot of time to learn how to present a jig, crankbaits, spinner bait and if all that is not workin I can pick up a senko and still catch them with the best of them without the same practice.

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:32 pm

teamtrout

Whys everybody hatin' on senkos? They are a good way to catch some big bass! Many people I know, including myself, have caught there biggest fish on a senko. I think one could argue that there is just as much skill in senko fishing, as most other types of fishing. Take frog fishing- when they are hitting the frog, there isn't much skill involved; just cast out, see a bite, set the hook. Or crankbaiting. Same thing. Some days they don't hit the senko, so you have to change your technique. And if you can't "improve" by throwing different baits, I don't know what to tell ya...



there's way more to those techniques...even frog fishing such as retrieve (steady pull, different cadence, or walking), throwing it into heavy cover and hauling pigs out the thickest slop or nastiest tree, or tea bagging. there are days where they will only hit a walking frog and days where they won't go near one.

or crankbaits. speed of the retrieve, rattle or no rattle or knocker, thin sides or wide wobble, bump and stop off deflection or burn, square bill or regular bill, and so forth.

i can even list a few different technique factors to the terrible carolina rig.

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:53 pm

for the record: my first fishing rod was an ugly stick and i slung black / blue garys from shore with the best of em

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:55 pm

I haven't caught a fish on a senko in about 2 1/2 years.

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:04 pm

I'm 3 trips in a row without a fish just in a massive slump . So last time out I just said screw it I'm using a senko and threw just about every senko color, size they make and still nothing. So to say senko fishing is more like senko catching is a ridiculous statement. If you took a world class Fisherman and an average Joe gave them all the same gear and a senko on the hook the same way and had them throw it at the same fish in the same spot the guy with skill and technique is gonna trigger a bite a lot more often than the other guy. there is a bit of skill and know how invoked in fishing a yamo maybe not as much as jigging or cranking but it requires some. They are here to stay stop crying about it and making rookies feel bad for using them.

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:11 pm

teamtrout

Whys everybody hatin' on senkos?.



Because of the question Dave asked. How to remove a hook from a fishes gut. I had no idea what bait he was using but I guessed right in my reply. No bait is responsible for more gut hooked fish then the senko and its many knock offs. A bleeding fish is a dead fish IMO. They are killing more bass then all other baits combined. A bass does not hit a senko any differently then it hits a jig, or spinnerbait or worm. the difference is when a bass takes those other baits you know it right away and set the hook . When they hit a senko on slack line and are allowed to hold that bait , undetected for 5,10 seconds , they swallow it.
I do believe the senko can be used with skill. Skip it under a dock, under a pontoon boat without ringing the bell, into a tree or under an overhang without hanging up. Cast it to that little point or indent in a pad line or hit the edge of a cabbage patch. Have one ready to go as a follow up bait if you get a missed top water bite or a fish follows your spinnerbait back to the boat.

If all you do is cast it out and wait for a fish to eat it, what have you done? Lifting it back up once it hits bottom does not count as "working the bait" It's like taking candy from a baby

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Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:15 pm

I would disagree that there is more "skill" in other techniques. If in crankbaiting, speed of retrieve, rattle or not, thin or wide sides or not, etc. are all factors, one could claim that senkos have a lot of factors involved- texas or wacky, 4 inch, 5 inch, or 6 inch, slow or fast retrieve, etc.

And frogging has a lot of similarities with senko fishing. You cast out, twitch it, let it sit, and so on. Sometimes I fish my senkos with different retrieves, and sometimes I fish them in the heaviest cover. An there are some days they will only hit a wacky rigged senko, and other days they won't go near one Wink

And on another note, you should twitch your senkos enough to feel a bite right away.

Posted Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:17 pm

Its all about conservation. If someone is gut hooking fish every weekend, and admits it on a forum, they are going to get negative comments.

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