well it's a combination I don't think that having 80 pound braid own a 12 foot pole with steel leaders is very challenging I do like the fight of the fish but I am also very careful when landing them. rarely lose any gear. but my second thing is my wife is also pregnant if I can afford spending hundreds of dollars on the exact proper gear I would. also I have never tried or caught anything from the surf in massachusetts . I have in the past on long beach island new jersey with 15 pound line with 35-50 pound leader